Maher kicked off the panel discussion Friday night with the ongoing 一月. 6 House Select Committee hearings and cited a poll that showed “54%” of Americans believe the former president should be charged with a crime, “包含 21% of Republicans.”
“But the committee says they will not refer this to the Justice Department. 为什么?” 马赫问. “Why isn’t it moving into that realm? And if we don’t, it will just happen again, 没有?”
“Breaking Points” podcast co-host Krystal Ball responded by knocking the “fundamental lack of seriousness” from Democrats for not tackling the question as to what truly led to the events of Jan. 6 where a large portion of the country does not believe in the results of the presidential election. She also panned the Democrat-led strategy of propping up Republicans in primary races who deny the 2020 election’s legitimacy with the hopes of defeating them easier in the November midterms.
“But that’s not really my question,” 马赫说. “我的意思是, 是, if the guy robbed the liquor store, let’s look into why he did that. 但是也, he needs to be arrested for robbing the liquor store.”
Tablet Magazine columnist James Kirchick called Trump a “希尔顿史蒂夫希尔顿酒店” WHO “may have committed crimes” but cautioned the prosecution of a former president, citing how former President Gerald Ford “did the right thing” by pardoning Richard Nixon after Watergate.
Ball said she has “no issue” with Trump being prosecuted, but insisted “that’s not going to solve our problem,” suggesting that the Republican Florida governor would follow in Trump’s footsteps.
“Do you think that Ron DeSantis is going to be way better than Donald Trump?” Ball asked.
“是, yes I do,” Maher quickly responded while raising his hand.
“He hasn’t shown contempt for the democratic process,” Kirchick told Ball.
“He’s not certifiably insane. That’s a great one to start off with,” 马赫说. “You know what Ron DeSantis won’t be doing? He won’t be poop-tweeting every day. It won’t be, 喜欢, having feuds with Bette Midler on Twitter. He’s not an insane person.”
Maher later pivoted back to Kirchick’s warning about prosecuting a former president, suggesting it could spark political violence across the country.
“That’s a very dangerous road to go down. And it’s very fainthearted,” Maher told the columnist. “We have to be scared of what the criminals will do if we charged them for being criminals? That can’t — that’s not really the way to go.”
Ball doubled down on her argument that charging Trump with crimes over Jan. 6 wouldn’t “fix the core problem.”
“Would you say that about criminal justice in general, that it doesn’t solve the problem?” 马赫问.
“当然,” Ball responded. “当然. Yes… that is dealing with a symptom of the rot in our society.”
“Arresting criminals and putting them in jail does not help the problem of crime?” Maher pressed his guest.
“She should run for DA in San Francisco,” Kirchick quipped, referring to the recently ousted progressive District Attorney Chesa Boudin.