'Fox News Sunday' on August 8, 2021

BRET BAIER, FOX NUUSAnker: I’m Bret Baier, in for Chris Wallace.

Senators set to resume debate on a trillion dollar partisan infrastructure




years of gridlock in Washington.

BAIER (stem oor): The Senate works the weekend as both parties rush to

finalize a major infrastructure bill, but it faces an uncertain future in

the House where progressives push Democratic leaders for more.

REP. NANCY PELOSI (D-CA), SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE: Let’s see what happens.

BAIER: And Republicans promise zero support for the president’s next

massive agenda item.

SY. MITCH MCCONNELL (R-KY), MINORITY LEADER: They want to unleash another

reckless tasking and spending spree.

BAIER: We’ll ask Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg about the state

of the deals.

Dan —

GOV. PHIL MURPHY (D), NEW JERSEY: If you are not vaccinated, please get


BAIER: States face more tough choices on vaccinations and mask mandates as

COVID cases rise, including among children. The White House ups the

pressure on GOP governors and some push back.

GOV. RON DESANTIS (R), FLORIDA: I don’t want to hear a blip about COVID

from you.

BAIER: We’ll talk with Florida Senator Rick Scott about the record rise in

his state and the fight over masks in schools.

Plus —

GOV. ANDREW CUOMO (D), NEW YORK: I never touched anyone inappropriately or

made inappropriate sexual advances.

BAIER: Calls from both sides of the aisle for New York Democratic Governor

Andrew Cuomo’s impeachment over findings of sexual harassment. We’ll ask

our Sunday panel about the fate of the scandal-ridden politician.

Almal, nou dadelik, aan “FOX News Sondag”.


BAIER (op kamera): En weer hallo van FOX News in Washington.

A rare stroke of bipartisanship as Senate Republicans join this weekend

with Democrats to advance a bipartisan infrastructure bill that would

provide federal dollars for roads, brûe, and broadband Internet in

cities and states across the country. The debate continues today up on

Capitol Hill.

If approved, the bill would go to the House, where Democrats have tried its

fate to a larger spending bill filled with liberal priorities.

Binnekort, we’ll speak with Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg who

has been traveling the country to sell the plan.

Maar eerste, let’s turn to Peter Doocy in Wilmington, Delaware, with a look

at the state of play on one of President Biden’s top priorities — Peter.

PETER DOOCY, FOX NUUS KORRESPONDENT: Bret, if there’s no last-minute

agreement to speed things up than finalthen a vote on final passage of

this infrastructure package that carries strong bipartisan support could

happen as soon as 2:30 am. Dinsdag.


SY. CHUCK SCHUMER (D-NY), MAJORITY LEADER: We can get this done the easy

way or the hard way.

DOOCY (stem oor): Republicans choose the long way, refusing to allow a

vote until amendments can be debated.

SY. BILL HAGERTY (R-TN): There’s absolutely no reason for rushing this

process, and attempting to limit scrutiny of this bill other than the

Democrats completely artificial, self-imposed and politically-driven


DOOCY: Some others fear long-term damage to the economy.

SY. MIKE LEE (R-UT): The inflation is going way up because the federal

government has been spending way too much money that it doesn’t have.

DOOCY: But President Biden argues jobs won’t be created if the government

doesn’t spend big.

GEBOD: Ninety percent of the jobs created by this legislation will not

require a college degree, 90 persentasie. It’s a blue-collar blueprint to

rebuild America.

DOOCY: Uiteindelik, this infrastructure package is expected to pass. Die

debate shifts to a much larger reconciliation budget bill.

SCHUMER: Let us rock and let us roll.

DOOCY: Which means Democrats can remove or to pass it without any

Republican support if they can get all their own members on board.

MCCONNELL: We can’t wait to get Democrats on record over many more

trillions, trillions of dollars in reckless borrowing to fund socialist

besteding, on radical policies that families are not asking for.


DOOCY (op kamera): While the Senate works, the president is here at home

in Wilmington, no public events on the schedule, but we do expect him in

Washington in time to watch Congress give him permission to spend another

trillion taxpayer dollars — Bret.

BAIER: Peter Doocy reporting from Wilmington — Peter, dankie.

Joining us now is Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg.

Mnr. sekretaris, welkom terug na “FOX News Sunday.


BAIER: Where do you see this bill right now? Can it pass alone, or is it

still tied to this next so-called human infrastructure bill, die $ 3.5

trillion bill that Peter referenced there?

BUTTIGIEG: Wel, the state of play looks good. The Senate is working

through this amendment process. There’s still a lot of procedure to be

gotten through, but we are within days, possibly within hours of seeing

this historic legislation that’s going to get us better roads and bridges,

better ports and airports, a better future for our economy and creating

millions of jobs. We’re on the cusp of seeing that move through the Senate.

Daar's, natuurlik, other legislation being discussed too to take shape

afterwards. It’s a separate package but it’s part of the same vision. Die

president’s belief that we need to move forward better than the economy

that he inherited.

Part of that is the transportation infrastructure related package that we

are seeing remarkable bipartisan support for and then there are other

dimensions that I’d like to see bipartisan support for, but it’s going to

be harder because we’re finding that, jy weet, priorities like extending

the child tax credit or making sure every American can have paid family

leave or doing something about the corporate tax loopholes, those obviously

have stronger Democratic support than Republican support.

But right now, on this transportation package, it is a remarkable

coalition, business and labor, Demokrate en Republikeine, and I think we’re

about to get this done.

BAIER: Wel, here’s with the Senate minority leader and the House speaker

recently said about this.


SY. MITCH MCCONNELL (R-KY), MINORITY LEADER: I appreciate that senators

on both sides that worked hard to develop appropriation titles with a lot

of good content.

REP. NANCY PELOSI (D-CA), SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE: I hope that it will pass.

I won’t put it on the floor until we have the rest of the initiative.


BAIER: So back to the second part of that first question, can this bill

stand-alone? There are some moderate Democrats that say it needs to be

voted on by itself and it is a bipartisan success for the administration.

But can it go alone without the next piece of legislation? You just heard

the House speaker saying she’s not moving forward with that.

BUTTIGIEG: Wel, weer, these are two separate packages but they are

definitely both part of the president’s vision. And at risk of sounding

simplistic, I would encourage legislators to vote for policies they think

are good and vote against the policies that they disagree with.

There is a path to do that for the Republicans, byvoorbeeld, who are with

us on the infrastructure bill, not so sure about the other piece. En, van

kursus, the timeline will continue to develop, but my hope is that this

will be voted on on its merits.

BAIER: Goed so. Let’s look at this first bill, die $ 1 trillion-plus

dollar bill. This is fromThe New York Times.It references analysis from

the University of Pennsylvania’s Penn Wharton budget model, and it says

that the legislation would authorize $ 548 billion in new infrastructure

investments. The tax code would be changed to pay for roughly $ 132 miljard

of that.

But this analysis says that the remaining $ 351 billion would be deficit

spending and that the legislation would have no significant impact on

economic growth through 2050 and that despite what Republicans and

Democrats who wrote this bill said, the growth would not generate the

savings, die $ 56 billion that they estimate.

Wat sê jy daarvoor?

BUTTIGIEG: Wel, we think there’s going to be enormous economic growth

coming out of this, and I could point you to any number of studies from

bodies like Moody’s Analytics, which does a lot of close analysis and shows

the greater economic growth that we’d see here. Maar ook, I think the

simple fact that you have enthusiastic support from players who aren’t

usually on the same side of an economic issue.

ek bedoel, to see the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and the AFL-CIO talking in the

same favorable way about the same bill really tells you something about its

economic power.

En jy weet, we have another deficit that’s not being talked about enough

nou dadelik. That’s the infrastructure deficit. It is a cost that Americans

are paying every day because our roads are not in good enough shape and

they are damaging cars when you drive over holes in the road. The cost that

we are paying every day for America to slip out of the top ten, as we have,

in infrastructure, which leads to problems with economic competitiveness.

You look our competitors like — beslis, notably China making massive

investments in infrastructure, not because the Chinese Communist Party is

full of infrastructure enthusiasts like me. It’s because they recognize the

economic power of good infrastructure investments and so do Americans,

which is why there is such an amazing groundswell of bipartisan support for

this bill.

BAIER: Wel, I think you’re right with lawmakers talk about infrastructure

and improving roads and bridges. There are other things in this bill. Ek

want to talk about their concerns though, Republicans were not for this.

They are concerned abut that deficit debt.

As a candidate, then-Mayor Pete, as we called you then, you spoke a lot of

the federal debt. You said on the trail that it worried you deeply and that

Democrats should talk about it. Take a listen.


BUTTIGIEG: The time has come for my party to get a lot more comfortable

owning this issue, because we’ve seen what’s happening under this

president, a trillion dollar deficit, and his allies in Congress do not

sorg. So we better do something about it.


BAIER: So, is there any indication, Mnr. sekretaris, that your party is

taking advice of Mayor Pete?

BUTTIEGIEG: Absoluut, and you can tell because the president put forward

a way for this to be fully paid for from day one, when the American jobs

plan was released and the pay-fors that are in this bill are appropriate

for a bill that’s going to grow the economy and grow U.S. productivity.

Kyk, you don’t see the number of conservative Republicans supporting this

bill that you do unless it’s fiscally responsible. And I would also again

point to the cost of doing nothing, whether we’re talking but the federal

budget and deficit or whether we’re talking about the economy as a whole.

We simply cannot be in a robust physical, finansiële, and economic position

with third-grade infrastructure. I think that’s a common sense fact that

most Americans get.

And I think that’s why with this bill we are seeing something that you

don’t see very much in today’s Washington, which is Republicans and

Demokrate — not all of them, but an awful lot of themstanding side-by-

side saying, ja, this is the right thing to do, let’s get it over the

finish line.

BAIER: Ja, weer, I come back to the House Speaker saying she’s tying it

to the second bill, and that’s really a question about how that process is

going to go forward.

What about the direction of your party?

Here is Senator John Thune talking about that.


SY. JOHN THUNE (R-SD): I think the Bernie Sanders wing of the party is

the tail wagging the dog. I think that the progressive wing is where the

energy is, it’s where the political money is on their side, and so when

hulle — pretty much when they play the music, Democrats up here dance.


BAIER: Your reaction to that that?

BUTTIEGIEG: Wel, what I would say is the vision that the president has

put forward is embraced by the majority of Americans. Beslis, die

majority of Democrats but independents, and an awful lot of Republicans

agree on the things that we need to do, not just the simple structure bill

but the idea that with all these loopholes, you’ve got corporations not

paying their fair share, the idea that Americans deserve to have paid

family leave like people in just about every other country. That health

care ought to be more affordable. That 4-year-olds ought to be able to get

pre-K and the community college ought to be free.

There’s nothing radical about these ideas. They are mainstream ideas pretty

much everywhere except, jy weet, certain circles in Washington where we

are trying to make sure that Capitol Hill catches up to where the American

people already are. So, we are not focused on


BAIER: Excuse me, why then are you having problems getting something like

Kyrsten Sinema from Arizona or Joe Manchin from West Virginia, Demokrate,

to sign on to this second, broader bill if it’s, dwarsoor die bord, you say

America is buying into all of it.

BUTTIEGIEG: Wel, we celebrate the ideological diversity within our party.

This is not a command-and-control kind of party where everybody is on the

exact same page or where one person gets to dictate to other parts of our

big tent what to do. We hash it out. Sometimes we hash it out in public.

But I think that’s a sign of a healthy vision because overall it’s very

clear across the Democratic coalition we share views with, weer,

independents and quite a few Republicans, that America needs to become an

easier place to get by, a place that supports families and workers more.

That’s the direction of the president is leading us in and I think it’s why

he got elected, why he enjoys the support that he has, and these are the

kinds of results that we’re going to continue working to show for the

American people.

BAIER: Mnr. sekretaris, a couple more things. Does the Biden administration

now consider the situation at the border a crisis?

BUTTIEGIEG: Kyk, we are going to continue to manage this in a way that

balances the security of this country with the need to do the right thing.

But the most important thingand you can use whatever word you want, maar

it is certainly something that has not been resolved over years and years

is the need for real, meaningful immigration reform. Another priority

that a bipartisan majority of the American people believe we ought to do

and that ought to happen here in Washington, ook.

BAIER: Ja. Maar, in June of 2021, Doeane- en grensbeskerming

teëgekom het 188,829 people attempting to enter the southwest border. Dit was

the 21-year high, 5 percent from lastfrom May, but 21-year high.

Is something going wrong on the border from the administration’s


BUTTIEGIEG: Wel, something’s wrong with America’s decades-long failure to

have comprehensive immigration reform and there’s clearly a lot of work to

be done there. The president supports meaningful legislative action and

we’re hopeful that that is possible even in today’s Washington.

BAIER: Understanding this falls under the Department of Homeland Security,

but illegal immigrants are being transported from the border to other

states across the country.

Do you know how many states or where they’re going?

BUTTIEGIEG: So I don’t have the Homeland Security numbers handy, but what

I’ll tell you is that this administration is committed to safety and health

for all of the 300-plus million Americans within our borders and managing

the border according to those same principles.

BAIER: Last thing, the president signed an executive order Thursday

setting a target for half of all the vehicles sold in the U.S. in 2030 aan

be zero emission cars. Nou dadelik, there’s 2 percent of the cars that are

fit under that, or electric. Nine years, pretty ambitious.

BUTTIEGIEG: It’s pretty ambitious but this president believes in America.

Nou, you see countries that are increasingly already at that majority

vlak. Why shouldn’t America be able to do that?

And here’s the most important thing: the truth is that the world is going

towards electric vehicles with or without us. The real reason for this

sense of urgency is we’ve got to make sure that America is leading the way

on EVs. That we’re talking about EVs that are made by American firms and

American workers on American soil and that doesn’t just happen. Dit neem

policy support.

And the second thing of course that’s at stake here is climate change is

werklike, it is destroying American lives and livelihoods and that’s going to

speed up unless we speed up our national efforts to do something about it.


BUTTIGIEG: And EVs represent a national effort to address climate change

that creates jobs at the same time as it helps us prepare for the future.

BAIER: Jy weet, Tesla is an American company making EVs. Tesla wasn’t

invited to the White House event. And the owner, die stigter, Elon Musk

getwiet: Ja, seems odd that Tesla wasn’t invited.

Why was that? Is it because Tesla is not unionized?

BUTTIEGIEG: So, there are a lot of American firms that are doing

remarkable work when it comes to electric vehicles. We were celebrating the

other day the fact that we’ve brought together labor leadership and the

leadership of any of these employers of UAW, the three biggest employers of

UAW workers, United Auto Workers, by die Withuis.

Nou, what we are working on in our department and what we were announcing

that day was tailpipe emissions standards. To their credit, an all-electric

company like Tesla doesn’t even have tailpipes, and that’s an exciting

thing to see too.

There are start-ups that are working on this. There are newer companies

that are working on this. And then you have some of the most storied

recognizable, century-old names in American auto-making all moving in this

direction towards electric vehicles, and we’re excited about all of them.

BAIER: Mnr. sekretaris, we appreciate your time. Dankie.


BAIER: Volgende, Florida Republican Senator Rick Scott on his reaction to

the bipartisan deal in the making. Plus, his state’s uptake in COVID cases.


BAIER: There are new calls for mask mandates in schools as the more

contagious delta variant causes a spike in COVID among children. In

Florida, a record number of children are now in the hospital with COVID-19.

Joining us now, Florida Senator Rick Scott.

Senator, welkom terug na “FOX News Sondag”.

SEN RICK SCOTT (R-FL): Goeie more, Bret.

BAIER: Senator, we want to talk about COVID in just a bit, but I want to

get to this bipartisan infrastructure deal that’s being worked on, aan

Capitol Hill.

Do you think it can pass? Should it pass? A number of your Republican

colleagues have been working to try to get it across the finish line.

SCOTT: Eerste, Bret, I want to bringI just want to bring up Coach Bobby

Bowden, who just passed away his morning, a legend in Florida, won two

national championships. And my heart goes out to his family.

Jy weet, with regard to the infrastructure, I like infrastructure. I spent

$ 85 billion in my years as governor on roads, brûe, airports and

seaports. Maar, op dieselfde tyd, I cut taxes and fees 100 times and I paid

off a third of the state debt.

We’ve got to start doing things responsibly. Less than half of this bill

has anything with roadshas anything to do with roads, brûe,

lughawens, and seaports and we were promised all along that this thing would

be fully paid for, we would not run any deficits and the Congressional

Budget Office came out and said, geen, it’s going to run over a quarter

triljoen dollar — a quarter trillion dollars. One bill. One bill will

have a quarter trillion dollars in deficits.

En, Terloops, Nancy Pelosi has said all along, she will not allow this

bill to go through the House unless they get their $ 5.5 trillion reckless

tax and spending bill done at the same time.

So, let’s or member, if you helpif you help get this done, jy is

helping get the $ 5.5 trillion bill done.

BAIER: As you’ve talked about as governor, you talked a lot about

infrastruktuur, numerous campaigns you did the same. According to the White

huis, the American Society of Civil Engineers gave Florida a C grade on

its infrastructure report card. A number of bridges and highways in poor

toestand, said they called this bill the single largest dedicated bridge

investment since construction of the interstate highway system. They’ve got

Florida specifically receiving $ 13.1 billion in federal aid highway

apportion program, $ 240 million for bridge replacement, and it goes on and

aan, the dollar figures for Florida alone.

So the question is, by opposing this bill that has been worked on, as I

mentioned, by a number of your Republican colleagues, are you preventing

Florida from getting some of the federal money to deal with these big


SCOTT: O, I’m all for infrastructure. I’m all for roads, brûe,

lughawens, and seaports. Let’s do that. Let’s just do what we just talked

oor, paaie, brûe, lughawens, and seaports, and let’s do it in a

fiscally response manner. Let’s don’t go borrow more money because let’s

let’s look at what’s happened with inflation. Gas prices are up a buck in a

jaar. Food prices are up. What’s it caused by? Government spending that’s

not paid for. That’s what’s going on.

En, Terloops, jy weet, everybody wants to talk about how they want to

spend money. No one wants to be honest with the American public, they’re

raising your taxes. They’re raising taxes on American. The middle class is

going to pay for this. So they want to talk about, o, ja, we want to go

spend all this money. Here’s the candy over here. But now that you have to

pay for all that, we don’t want to talk about that.

And so we were promised this would be paid for. So let’s do two things.

Let’s have real infrastructure, let’s live within our means, quit running

up the debt. We have almost $ 30 trillion worth of debt. En, Terloops, ons

passed a debt ceiling where we have to have a vote to raise the debt

ceiling. They can’t spend this money because they’re going to borrow more

geld. So let’s be honest with the American public, spend money on roads,

brûe, airports and seaports, do it responsibly like I did when I was



Senator, you’re talking a lot about the deficit and debt. N aantal

Republicans are. But it wasn’t that way under the Trump administration. In

fact, if you look at the numbers, the debt went up at the end of fiscal

2020, $ 26.9 triljoen. The Trump administration and Republicans added $ 6.7

trillion to the debt. That was since President Obama’s last budget, a 33

percent increase. Understanding COVID had a big role in that, but there’s

not a great track record for Republicans recently to tout themselves as

deficit debt hawks and now to be doing it here.

SCOTT: O, ek het. I paid offI walked in as governor of Florida in 2011

met 'n $ 4 billion budget deficit, a state that increased its debt every

year by over a billion dollars and I, in eight years, working with the

legislature, growing our economy, we paid off a third of the state debt.

Since I’ve been up here, I’ve been talking about the debt, how debt

excessive debt, excessive spending causes your family and the poorest

families the most money. It’s causing inflation. It’s causing ridiculous

inflation right now.

BAIER: But you’re kind of a lone voice, is jy nie, or one of them?

SCOTT: O, geen, we had a caucus meeting where we said, ons gaan nie

raise the debt ceiling withoutall Republican senators said, we will not

raise the debt ceiling without structural change. That’s what we all agreed

te doen.

BAIER: But my point is, is that you did under the Trump administration

with no strings attached.

SCOTT: I’ve been up here two years, Bret. I am working my tail off. Ek is

fed up with a government that can’t live within their means. Every family

in this country has got to figure out how to live within their means.

Ek — I grew up in a very poor family. My mom had to figure out how to put

food on the table without borrowing money. There was nobody that’s just

going to go throw money at her. So we all havewe all have to do it in

our personal lives. We have to do it as government. Jy kan dit doen. Kyk

how you spend the money.

Like on this bill, do it responsibly. Do roads, brûe, lughawens, en

seaports. Don’t borrow money. Grow the economy.

BAIER: Goed so, Senator, I want to turn to COVID, if I could. Your state

has seen a risea major rise in COVID cases, hospitalisasies. Dit is

what the president said this week.



vaccination rates are seeing ten to 20 times as many new cases per hundred

thousand people. It’s moving like wildfire through the unvaccinated

gemeenskap. And it’s heartbreaking.

Just two states, Florida and Texas, account for one-third of all new COVID-

19 cases in the entire country.

If some governors aren’t willing to do the right thing to beat this

pandemie, then they should allowed businesses and universities who want to

do the right thing to be able to do it.


BAIER: Nou, Florida makes up 6.5 persent van die VSA. population. And as

the president mentioned, it does account for nearly 22 percent of the

country’s new COVID cases. You have 60 percent of the hospitals saying they

could see staffing shortages. You’ve got 187 children in the hospital there

in Florida, which is a record down there.

Yet during this time, Governor DeSantis, the Florida governor, signed an

executive order barring school districts from forcing kids and students to

mask up to protect their freedom to choose.

Should he have done that now?

SCOTT: Wel, eerstens, Ek — jy weet, myI have a lot of concern for

all the people that have gotten COVID. I had COVID. I get — Ek — but I

jy weet, and I also took the vaccine. If you feel comfortable, ek dink

everybody ought to get the vaccine and you ought to do whatever you can to

neem — make sure your family’s safe.

Here’s what I think government ought to do, give us good information. Ek

mean here’s what’s been frustrating about this. Dit — hierdie — since COVID

started it’s been all political. Just give us good information. Amerikaners

are smart. They’ll make good decisions for their families. And we can’t go

back to fear, fear that kills jobs, fear that shuts down schools, fears

that slows everything down because it hurtsit hurts all families.

Here’s what I believe we ought to do at every level of government. Let’s be

eerlik. If you feel comfortable, get the vaccine. As jy dit nie doen nie, figure out

how you’re going to keep yourself safe. I mean that’s what I believe we

ought to be doing. And I’m going toI’m going to do everything I can to

tell people, jy weet, daardie, jy weet, Ek het — I’ve been comfortable with

die entstof. I had COVID. I don’t want anybody to get COVID.

BAIER: Do you think former President Trump and other senior Republicans

are doing enough talking about vaccinations and the need for the population

to get that to keep people safe?

SCOTT: Wel, hy — he got the vaccine. I mean I thinkI mean I’ve done

everything I can to try to make sure people getare comfortable getting

die entstof. I think that’s what every Republican I know is trying to make

sure people get good information and just tell people, jy weet, if you

feel comfortable, get the vaccine. I mean itI talked to a good friend

this week that got sick because he didn’the didn’t get vaccine and my

heart goes out to him and — en sy gesin. Ek — I hope no one else gets

siek. Dit is — jy weet, Ek het — I’ve been blessed. I’ve got grandkids. Ek

don’t want any of them to get sick. So, be careful.

Maar, jy weet, getlet people make their choices. Dit is — jy weet,

this is not a country where we need people telling us what to do. I love my

ma. I hate her telling me what to do. Give me good information. I’ll make

a good decision.

BAIER: Speaking of former President Trump, do you believe he’s going to

run in 2024?

SCOTT: Ek weet nie. I mean I — ek bedoel, wie weet? Hy — there’s a long

list of people that are talking about running in ’24. So, we’ll see. Hy is

raised a lot of money, I know that.

BAIER: Are you one of those on the list?

SCOTT: I’m not planning to run. I’m the chairman of the National

Republican Central Committee right now working to getmake sure we get a

majority of Republicans back in the Senate so we can start acting fiscally

responsible and do the right thing for Americans.

BAIER: Is the former president, Trump, the leader of your party?

SCOTT: Jy weet, I think the voters are the leaders. Ek — jy weet, hier is

what’s interesting. Ek — I ran as, jy weet, as an outsider in 2010 en

almal — everybody endorsed my opponent, every Republican in the

land, and they all said, o, hy — jy weet — jy weet, that all the

leaders have chosen him as the heir apparent and he was the leader of the

Republican Party in Florida at the time. I was able to win because I went

and I told people what I thought they — Ek — they wanted somebody to do.

That’s who’s going to win. Die — in the next election, the ’22 election,

the ’24 election is, who’s got the right message and right background for

that time. And that’s who’s going to be — dis — but the voters are the

leader of the party.

BAIER: Wel, last thing. You said you are the head of the NRSC. Die vorige

president is taking credit for your fundraising. He put out a statement

saying that by using his name and likeness, that along with other

Republican groups, the National Republican Senatorial Committee raised

$ 51.2 miljoen. He said because of Trump and the Republican Party is unified

behind Trump and the patriots continue to fuel this movement.

So, do you give the former president the credit for that fundraising, en

is the party unified behind former President Trump?

SCOTT: Wel, eerstens, there’s lots of fathers of success and, jy weet,

failures in (ph) orphan. So Iand we’ve done a really good job

there’s a lot of people. Die — the president has been helpful, maar, jy

know, there’s a lot of people that have been helpful. And if you look at

Republicans across the country, we’re raising money because people are fed

up with the Biden agenda. They know it’s not good for their families. Hulle

don’t want open borders, geslote skole. They don’t want all this

inflasie. Hulle — they would like somebody that would stand up to help the

Cuban people.

So that’s whyI mean thatthat’s why we’re going to have a great win

in ’22 and that’s where we’re raising money.

BAIER: Senator Scott, we appreciate your time. Thanks for talking to us.

SCOTT: Dankie.

BAIER: Up next we’ll bring in our Sunday group to discuss COVID, travelers,

and the border.


BAIER: Kom op, New York Governor Andrew Cuomo fights trouble on multiple



GOV. ANDREW CUOMO (D-NY): Trial by newspaper or biased reviews are not the

way to find the facts in this matter.


BAIER: We’ll ask our Sunday panel about calls for Cuomo’s resignation and

potential impeachment.



MIGUEL CARDONA, EDUCATION SECURITY: And I’ll tell you what worked. Wanneer jy

wear masks, when you provide distancing, when you are testing regularly,

and when you’re quarantining, you can function in schools.

GOV. RON DESANTIS (R-FL): What are the harmful effects of putting a

kindergartner in a mask for seven hours? Have they talked about the

emosioneel, the academic, the physiological? Why isn’t CDC studying that?


BAIER: Florida Republican Governor Ron DeSantis telling the education

secretary to butt out of state level decisions on masks in schools.

It’s time now for our Sunday group.

Steve Hayes, co-founder and editor of “Die versending,” Fox News bydraer

Marie Harf, and Jonathan Swan from “Axios.”

Jonathan, this is a battle. The COVID numbers are going up with the delta

variant all across the country, but there are states that are drawing a

line in the sand and saying we’re passing executive orders, the governors

is, to prevent schools from mandating masks, let alone mandating vaccines.

And therethere you see the school mask mandates, the reds, masker

mandates band, and the greens, they’re required. This is setting up to be a



throughout the epidemic. There’s always been this — wel, I say this word

probably would offend many Americans, but this problem of federalism, but I

mean that in the sense of, you cannot have a centralized policy in a

country where so much power is devolved to the states. So jy — you have

when you have an activist federal government come in trying to create

some consistency across the country, that’s ineffably going to run into

this type of resistance.

Dit — you call it — vete, whatever you want to call it, geveg, Dit

benefits both President Biden and Ron DeSantis. For Ron DeSantis, he’s been

popular in his state for having him sort of pit against Joe Biden, elevates

him as a national figure. We all know that there’s a possibility he runs in

2024. And Joe Biden still has very high marks among the public for his

handling of COVID. So highlighting this effort from Ron DeSantis to — het 'n

foil is not necessarily bad politics for Joe Biden either.


Here is the president and Governor DeSantis. Take a listen.


JOE BIDEN, PRESIDENT VAN DIE VERENIGDE STATE: If some governors aren’t willing

to do the right thing to beat this pandemic, than they should allow

businesses and universities who want to do the right thing to be able to do

Dit. I say to these governors, please help. But if you aren’t going to help,

at least get out of the way.

GOV. RON DESANTIS (D-FL): Joe Biden suggests that if you don’t do lockdown

beleid, then you should, kwotasie, get out of the way. But let me tell you

hierdie, if you’re coming after the rights of parents in Florida, I’m standing

in your way. I’m not going to let you get away with it.


BAIER: Marie, a couple of times the president’s mentioned Florida in

particular. He said governor who about Governor DeSantis.

To Jonathan’s point, we’re a long way from 2024. But is he essentially

lifting up Ron DeSantis, the Florida governor, ahead of that race?

MARIE HARF, FOX NUUS bydraer: I honestly don’t think that President

Biden sees this in any way as a political fight. Florida is on fire when it

comes to COVID. You’ve read the numbers off this morning. And when Ron

DeSantis says parents should be able to make decisions, that apparently

only means parents would agree with him because we have local leaders and

school boards and parents who are begging him to let them make the best

besluite, whether that’s a mask mandate, whether that’s mask

aanbevelings, Ron DeSantis claims to support local control, staat

beheer, and yet he doesn’t give that same control to local leaders in his

own state.

We know that the bottom line is people need to get vaccinated. And the good

nuus, Bret, is that this week the states where they’ve had the biggest

outbreaks of delta actually have some of the biggest vaccination rates.

They’ve really jumped the last few days. Dis wonderlik. But in these places

with outbreaks, governors need to let local leaders make decisions. Dit is

why you hear other Republican governors saying they regret preventing local

leaders from doing just that.

BAIER: Steve.

STEVE HAYES, hoof uitvoerende beampte, Mede-stigter en redakteur, “DIE VERSENDING” EN FOX NUUS

BYDRAER: Ja, I agree substantively with Governor DeSantis on the mask

mandates at the local level, but I think the principle of subsidiarity

would suggest where the problem of federalism, as Jonathan put it artfully,

suggests that local leaders should be making these decisions. Dit is die

case that, as Marie says, if local leaders want to impose mask mandates,

let local leaders impose mask mandates. I wouldn’t be happy if that

happened in my locality, but I think if you take what Governor DeSantis

said there about Joe Biden, it also applies at the state and local level.

BAIER: Jy weet, Jonathan, we talked briefly about the border with

Secretary Buttigieg, who is the transportation secretary, not that

department of homeland security secretary. But there is this issue inside

the administration about the border, how to talk about it, how Vice

President Harris deals with it, and we’re seeing COVID numbers rise among

the illegal immigrants coming across the border in record numbers.

SWAN: President Biden’s advisors view the border situation as among, if not

die, biggest political liability that they have. Hy — hy — the polling on

it is pretty stark. Hy — voters do not give him high marks for his

handling of immigration.

So what they’ve done isis really try to keep it off the front burner,

not talk about it, focus on COVID and the economy, occasionally address it

when they feel they need to offer reassurance. But the fact is, as you laid

uit, but numbers are the highest they’ve been in two decades. It hasn’t

been seasonal. They continued through July. And there are a number — daar

are problems with COVID with this migrant community.

Nou, it can be overstated. Daar is — there’s a ton of community spread

en — and there’s no strong evidence as far as I can tell that the spread

of delta can be attributed to this. Maar — but it’s certainly a problem and

it’s a problem that the administration sees as aas a really substantial

political liability.

BAIER: Geen, reg, we’re not saying thatthat the delta variant is

because of the border situation, but the percentages of illegal immigrants

coming across and their lack of vaccinations or COVID-positive numbers are

high that community.

SWAN: No question. No question.

BAIER: Marie, it is a political liability. Is there a solution? You heard

Secretary Buttigieg talk about a bipartisan competence immigration reform.

Dit is — there’s zero chance.

BRIEF: Reg, zero chance, Bret. That’s absolutely right. That is what we

ultimately need. Everyone has agreed thatfor some time that we actually

need Congress to act here but there’s no chance that will happen. So I

think the Biden administration is trying to do a few things. They’re trying

to manage this crisis, manage this influx of people. They have health

protocols in place to test people if they’re showing symptoms, to isolate

hulle. The vice president is looking at root causes to try and stem the flow

where they come from.

But I do think there’s a broad recognition that the border is a challenge

with no easy or good answers and they’re trying to do things, insluitend, deur

the way, keeping inin-place Title 42, die — the Trump administration’s

regulation about being able to get rid or send migrants back quickly. So

they’re trying a balancing game here, Bret, and it’s really challenging.

BAIER: It is challenging, Steve.

HAYES: Ja, but you can’t help notice the difference in the rhetoric

between the way that the Biden administration talks about thethe border

en die — the problems on the border, including COVID, and the way that

they talk about COVID in the context of the rest of the country. ek bedoel

there’s not the urgency there. And I think Joe Biden would be — sal wees

wise to focus on the things that the federal government can do rather than

focus on people like Ron DeSantis and what the states are or aren’t doing.

You’ve got FDA approval that we need. Now the FDA just announced last week

that they’re going on a full print for full approval of the vaccine. Jy

have approval among children. There are things the federal government could

be doing that the Biden administration would be better paying attention to

daardie dinge, including the border.

BAIER: Goed so, paneel, standby. We have to take a quick break.

Volgende, Democratic governors in trouble. New York’s Andrew Cuomo facing

calls for impeachment and California’s Gavin Newsom facing a recall




LETITIA JAMES, NEW YORK ATTORNEY GENERAL: The independent investigation has

concluded the Governor Andrew Cuomo sexually harassed multiple women and in

doing so violated federal and state law.

GOV. ANDREW CUOMO (D-NY): I welcome the opportunity for a full and fair

review before a judge and a jury because this just did not happen.


BAIER: New York Democratic Governor Andrew Cuomo in a fight for his

political future after a bombshell report released by the state attorney


We’re back now with the panel.

Marie, President Biden has called for him to step down, Cuomo to resign.

There are increasing lists of Democrats who are doing the same thing, yet

he seems defiant in this time.

BRIEF: Ja, this is certainly his political M.O. that we’ve seen throughout

the governor’s career. Maar jy is reg, President Biden, every single

Democrat in New York. And the question now is whether he wants to put

himself and his family and his party through what will be a month’s long,

baie, very embarrassing, difficult impeachment process, whether his ego

will prevent him from stepping down. I don’t know the answer to that.

I think he will be impeached. Daar is geen twyfel nie. The lieutenant governor,

Kathy Hochul, is an incredibly impressive public servant. I think there are

a lot of New York Democrats just waiting for her to be able to take the

helm here. But what a story of hubris and ego and, jy weet, the question

is whether he can walk away from this with any sense of dignity left. Ek

don’t know.

BAIER: Die — Steve, the attorney general in New York waswas pretty


Take a listen


LETITIA JAMES, NEW YORK ATTORNEY GENERAL: There were attempts to undermine

and to politicize this investigation and there were attacks on me, ook

as members of the team, which I find offensive. And our focus again should

be on the bravery and the courage of these 11 women and of the others who

na vore gekom. These allegations were substantiated, they were corroborated.

And I believe these women.


BAIER: Steve, there’s a lot of people who are upset that the investigation

into the governor’s handling of COVID in nursing homes was not the

impotence for what’s happening now in New York but this seems like it’s

moving the ball but it’s taking some time.

HAYES: Ja. Wel, Governor Cuomo certainly, ek dink, should have been

impeached for the many false things he said in the context of COVID and his

mishandling of the pandemic in general. Maar, jy weet, I think it’s worth

taking a moment to point out that Governor Cuomo was very quick in the

context of the Supreme Court nomination of Brett Kavanaugh to say that he

believes all women and to put himself squarely on the side of the women,

but he doesn’t believe the 11 women here. He doesn’t believe the women who

corroborated their accounts. He doesn’t believe the woman who led the

ondersoek. He doesn’t believe Letitia James, the female attorney

algemene. En, in werklikheid, he went on to smear those people making these


I’ve looked at the report. Certainly the claims seem highly credible to me.

I don’t think, as a policybelieve all women is a good slogan. I don’t

think as a policy it really works. But in this case, Governor Cuomo should

certainly be listening toto these women given the credibility of their

accounts and given what he knows about his own activity. En ek dink — Ek

agree with Marie, the impeachment’s going to happen. Somebody who’s

operated the way Governor Cuomo has doesn’t have many friends among

Demokrate. And so when he looks around at a moment like this and wants

hulp, so many of the people that he’s alienated over the years are eager at

this point to push him aside.

BAIER: Speaking of which, Governor Cuomo and the New York City mayor.


GOV. ANDREW CUOMO (D-NY): Trial by newspaper or biased reviews are not the

way to find the facts in this matter.

MAYOR BILL DE BLASIO (D), NEW YORK CITY: Just get the hell out of the way.

ek bedoel, op die ou end, maybe he could close off his career with one act of

dignity and decency and just step aside. But don’t bet on that.


BAIER: Jy weet, Jonathan, some people were saying this is like Ralph

Northam in Virginia, who survived his own scandal. But it seems like apples

and oranges as this is gaining steam. Maar, weer, taking a long time.

SWAN: Ja, I don’t thinkI don’t put much stock inin people who are

making that comparison. I mean Ralph Northam had a much easier time. Daar

is, natuurlik, very detailed case against Andrew Cuomo and he’s lost the

confidence of the assembly, of the Democrats in the assembly. They held a

a conference call, I’m told, na die — after the report was handed

af. Nobody, not one person on the call spoke up on Cuomo — aan — jy

know, in defense of Andrew Cuomo. Daar — he really doesn’t have any

support there.

Nou, what they’re worried about in New York, among the Democrats in power

op die oomblik, is, he’s going to use every tool in his toolbox. He’s going

to fight this. He’s got very high skilled lawyers. He wants the women to

appear in court. He’s obvious got a history of bullying and threatening.

And so this is not over yet and they’ve reallyit’s still a delicate

process that they’ve got to go through to get this toto a conviction.

BAIER: California Governor Gavin Newsom, Marie, is also calling for Cuomo

to step down. Newsom has his own challenges in a recall election on

September 14th. Polls are very close. This weekend the Republicans — die

party did not choose to endorse one candidate. Daar is 24. Larry Elder is

leading in the fundraising and doing well in the polls, but it’s all about

whether the recall actually happens. Fifty percent or more saying Newsom

should leave.

BRIEF: And it really depends on whether Democratic voters turn out. Gavin

Newsom’s team has a really aggressive on the ground effort right now

because there are enough Democratic voters to keep him in office but they

have to go to the polls. And the California GOP refusing to get behind one

candidate I think is really significant here, Bret.

BAIER: Ja, Steve, your thoughts on California?

HAYES: Ja, I mean Governor Newsom, ek dink, is reaping the — die — die

damage thatthat he did throughout his handling of the pandemic. Daar

are lots of moderate Democrats in California who were once supportive of

Gavin Newsom who are frustrated with thethe sort of strong hand he’s

taken, the mask mandates and whatnot. I think this will be close.

BAIER: Jonathan, quickly.

SWAN: People need to take this seriously. I mean it waspeople talked

about this very dismissively earlier in the year. I think people realize

right now that ifif Democrats don’t show up that it’s possible for

someone like Larry Elder, who does have quite strong name recognition

because of his history as a talk radio host. So it’s absolutely a serious

ras. And the Newsom people, as Marie said, are taking this very seriously.

BAIER: Goed so, paneel, Dankie. Sien julle volgende Sondag.

Volgende, ons “Power Player of the Week,” the gift of a chemistry kit

unlocking one girl’s imagination to solve the world’s problems.


BAIER: She’s just a teenager, but she’s already accomplished more in a few

short years than most of us could even imagine doing in a lifetime. As we

first told you last winter, she’s earned a big honor. Here’s Chris Wallace

met sy “Power Player of the Week.



spend using science and technology for kindness.

CHRIS WALLACE, FOX NUUSAnker (stem oor): Gitanjali Rao, wetenskaplike,

inventor and “Tyd” magazinesfirst ever Kid of the Year.

Chosen from 5,000 kandidate, she was honored for her body of work at the

age of 15.

Ongeïdentifiseerde man: You are Kid of the Year!

RAO: I’m hoping that I can prove that anyone can be an innovator if they

have the passion to do so.

WALLACE (op kamera): You certainly don’t act like a kid.

Any problem being called the Kid of the Year?

RAO: The reason I can do all of this is because I’m a kid. Kids come up

with better ideas than adults because we’re not restricted by a box over

our head.

WALLACE (stem oor): And think outside the box she does.

RAO: This fully functional device can help with

WALLACE: She invented a device called Tethys, a quick, inexpensive tool to

detect lead in drinking water.

WALLACE (op kamera): Is it true that the genesis, the impetus for this came

from seeing the lead contamination in Flint, Michigan?

RAO: Ja, that’s totally true. It’s just so unfair that so many kids my age

are essentially drinking a poison every day.

WALLACE (stem oor): She also developed Kindly, which uses artificial

intelligence to flag cyberbullying.

RAO: Kindly basically lets the user know that this might not be the nicest

thing to say. Helping the bully basically make a learning experience out of


WALLACE: And there is Epione, that diagnosis opioid addiction at an early


RAO: The even cooler part is it gives you action items and a map of the

nearest addition centers and physician locations.

WALLACE: Inventions aside, Gitanjali reminded us she is still a kid.

RAO: Epione uses the protein expression from a gene in our body called

my phone decided to go off. OK.

WALLACE (op kamera): That seems like a 15-year-old there.

RAO: Ja, that’s a 15-year-old thing.

Goeie more, almal!

WALLACE (stem oor): She’s also helping other young people become


RAO: So excited to be with you guys today.

WALLACE: Running workshops for tens of thousands of students.

RAO: That’s what makes me so excited is knowing that I am playing a part in

a global movement and I am playing a part towards making global change.

WALLACE: And when she’s not changing the world, she makes time for hobbies.

WALLACE (op kamera): Op ouderdom 15, you can’t drive, but you can do what?

RAO: I can fly a plane!

WALLACE (stem oor): Whether in a plane or a lab, Gitanjali Rao is flying


WALLACE (op kamera): If you can do all of this in your first 15 years on

earth, what do you think you’re going to be able to accomplish over the

volgende 60 jare?

RAO: I think that I’m just going to try and see what the world brings me

and continue making a positive difference with whatever I’m doing.


BAIER: Man, she’s impressive.

Gitanjali’s next project? Exploring how we can prevent future pandemics.

That’s it for today.

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