麦克法兰: The only people who like socialism and communism in the world today, they’re in the United States Congress and I guess in the Biden administration. Why we would drop what America has stood for for decades, for centuries, which is democracy, free expression, 权利, the opportunity society. And to somehow have this, sort of throw that away for this gauzy notion of — I don’t even know what that statement says. This is the time when we should stand up. And especially if you see what’s happening in Cuba, if you see what’s happening in Hong Kong, if you see what’s happening in other parts of the world. America can lead again as a democracy, not just as, 我不知道, a pro-Russian Chinese vessel. 我不知道, it just doesn’t make sense to me why we no longer proud of being a democracy.
The timing of it is also significant because just last week or a couple of weeks ago, the Chinese president basically said, '你懂, 美国, your days are over. Democracy doesn’t work in a modern society. Only authoritarian government, only communist government. We’re in charge.’ And it’s almost like the Biden administration says, '好, 也许, maybe we should just soften our position on democracy.’ This is when we should double down on support of democracy, not shrink away from it, because we are in now a clash of civilizations between the Chinese civilization, 民主, 共产主义, authoritarian governments. And as even the Chinese, number two man in China said to me once, you know what we’re heading for? This is China versus America and America really is Rome. We are heading for a clash of civilizations.