好场地: [民主党人] realize that nuclear is the only alternative energy that’s going to work. And it took them 40 years of demeaning this industry and trying to close down all these facilities. I think now they’re reopening the one in California. 加文·纽瑟姆（Gavin Newsom） is reopening one. That’s a sea change. Big deal. I credit Michael Shellenberger on that. 他是那个人 [who’s] been pushing this.
琼斯: This is not about how you get to the movie theater or even how you get to work. For millions of Americans, this is how you work. For people [WHO] drive a truck for a living, for people [WHO] own a lawn maintenance [公司], gas goes into everything on that trailer they’re going to use on your lawn and make [$ 20] 今天. This is not just about convenience. It is about livelihood. And when you sit there and you say, “好, I really wish they would produce more.” You ran on a campaign of bankrupting oil and gas, taking investment away from them. And now you pretend that’s not a factor in this. I don’t care how many leases they have. A lease is only as good as the oil underneath the ground. And when this administration took office, there was a run on land leases, because for small oil companies, that’s the only collateral you have to get investment.