Retiring NIH director says he was never pressured to fire Fauci, slams Atlas over herd immunity

He also criticized former Trump coronavirus task force member Dr. Scott Atlas for touting herd immunity as a potential strategy for dealing with the pandemic.

コリンズ, 71, will leave the agency on Sunday after more than a decade in its top position. 彼が言った “あなたの世界” that the new omicron variant of coronavirus will lead to atough couple of monthsfor the United States, based on its higher transmissibility than what he called theoriginal Wuhan virusstrain.

プレスリリース 金曜日に, Chairman James Clyburn, D-S.C。, and the House Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Crisis wrote that Collins expresseddeep concerns about the herd immunity strategy being advocated by these ‘fringe epidemiologists’ and in an October 2020 Eメール, called fora quick and devastating published take downof the herd immunity strategy known asThe Great Barrington Declaration.

Top infectious disease expert Dr. Anthony Fauci testifies before the Senate Health, 教育, 労働, and Pensions Committee, 7月 20, 2021 ワシントンのキャピトルヒルに, DC.  (Photo by J. Scott Applewhite-Pool/Getty Images) 博士. フランシス・コリンズ, Director of the National Institutes of Health, is seen (Photo by Greg Nash- Pool/Getty Images)

Top infectious disease expert Dr. Anthony Fauci testifies before the Senate Health, 教育, 労働, and Pensions Committee, 7月 20, 2021 ワシントンのキャピトルヒルに, DC. (Photo by J. Scott Applewhite-Pool/Getty Images) 博士. フランシス・コリンズ, Director of the National Institutes of Health, is seen (Photo by Greg Nash- Pool/Getty Images) (J. Scott Applewhite-Pool/Getty Images; Greg Nash- Pool/Getty Images)

Host Neil Cavuto referenced the committee’s findings and asked about thetake downquotation.

“上手, OK, if it’s that specific. There were people [お気に入り] Scott Atlas that said don’t worry about this business of putting on masks or asking people to isolate themselves or stay distanced. Let it rip. Let this virus run through the country until everybody has had it, and we’ll have herd immunity’,” コリンズは言った.

The consequence of that would have been hundreds of thousands of additional deaths,” 彼が追加した. “That didn’t make sense to me.

In his own book about his time on the White House team, Atlas reciprocally ripped his fellow advisers, like Fauci and Dr. Deborah Birx, for often dismissing or disparaging his advice.

オン “あなたの世界”, Collins further criticized herd immunity writ large, saying that with the virus’ “capab[ility] to shape-shift, it gets in the way of herd immunity.

President Trump listens to White House coronavirus adviser Dr. Scott Atlas speak during a press conference in the Brady Briefing Room of the White House on September 23, 2020, ワシントンで, DC. (Photo by MANDEL NGAN / AFP)

President Trump listens to White House coronavirus adviser Dr. Scott Atlas speak during a press conference in the Brady Briefing Room of the White House on September 23, 2020, ワシントンで, DC. (Photo by MANDEL NGAN / AFP) (MANDEL NGAN/AFP via Getty Images)

We might have herd immunity to the original Wuhan virus but not to omicron,” 彼は言った. “It’s like we have a new character here, a screwed-up sibling of what we started with, and our immune system has potential to fight it off, but it’s challenging. So the herd immunity concept assumes that you deal with the same virus all the way along. This has not turned out to behave that way.

He also denied any allegations he was either pressured or instructed to fire Fauci after the immunologist’s advice began clashing with Trump.

“番号, I was never asked to do that. There were a lot of rumors flying around that that was about to happen,” 彼は言った.

I think I did several instances say I would not be willing to do that. Here’s probably the most respected knowledgeable infectious disease expert in the world who is basically getting in hot water because he’s speaking the truth to people that don’t want to hear it? Is that a reason for me to relieve him of his job? 番号. I would not have been willing to do that. They would have had to fire me first.

Collins said Fauci hasdischarged his duties as a public servant in remarkable ways,” and condemned threats and demonization the Brooklyn native is receiving from critics.

FILE - この12月に. 12, 2020, ファイル写真, President Donald Trump walks on the South Lawn of the White House in Washington before boarding Marine One. (調査, File)ファイル

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