'Your World' on Biden and Russia

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バイデン大統領とロシアのウラジーミルプチン大統領が本日ビデオ通話を開催, as Russia continues its troop buildup along the Ukraine border. The White House issuing a warning of a strong response if Putin invades Ukraine, but what exactly will that response be?

The president holding calls with U.S. 味方, including France, Germany and Britain, right after that meeting.

来る, we’re going to talk to Mississippi Republican Senator Roger Wicker on the Armed Services Committee and what he makes of what the president has to do now.

ようこそ, みんな. Glad to have you. I’m Neil Cavuto. そしてこれは “あなたの世界。”

The Russian media was allowed in for the start of that call. アメリカ. media was not.

To Hillary Vaughn on Capitol Hill on where things stand right now.

ねえ, ヒラリー.

HILLARY VAUGHN, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: ねえ, Neil.

上手, after that two hour video chat between President Biden and Russian President Vladimir Putin, National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan was asked if the world is any safer after that video chat. He said he could not predict that, and only would say that time will tell.

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SULLIVAN: The discussion between President Biden and President Putin was direct and straightforward. There was a lot of give-and-take. There is no finger-wagging.

All I will say is that the ultimate metric for whether the world is safe or not is facts on the ground and actions taken. Let’s see.

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VAUGHN: Biden did threaten economic action if Putin ramps up his military action against Ukraine and also-called for Putin to de-escalate.

But some Senate Democrats tell me they don’t think that that should be the only thing on the table.

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VAUGHN: Do you think the military action should be on the table of options to convince Putin to back off?

ITS. TIM KAINE (D-VA): I don’t think any options should be off the table.

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VAUGHN: There is something new on the table, でも, 今日, A 180 on Russia’s Nord Stream 2 pipeline to Europe.

After months of President Biden defending his decision to lift sanctions that green-lit the project, he is now backtracking, the White House describing it as a economic action that Germany could cooperate with, Jake Sullivan saying today that, since gas is not flowing through the pipeline yet, it is not leverage for Russia, but instead leverage for the West.

Biden is expected to ask Germany to coordinate to stop or utilize the Nord Stream 2 pipeline as an economic sanction if Russia invades Ukraine, but Republicans on Capitol Hill say Biden rolled over on the pipeline to begin with, and now is looking for Germany to bail him out.

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VAUGHN: Why do you think the White House is backtracking on a policy that they have defended for months?

ITS. テッド・クルーズ (R-TX): 上手, because President Biden is obviously wrong. If you look at — たった今, we have got over 100,000 Russian troops that are massed on the Ukrainian border. That’s Joe Biden’s fault.

The reason this has happened is because Joe Biden surrendered to Vladimir Putin on Nord Stream 2.

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VAUGHN: And the White House will also brief congressional leaders here on Capitol Hill, Neil, about that meeting with Putin.

It will be interesting to see, as we talk to lawmakers here, if they have a different perspective following that briefingNeil.

CAVUTO: Hillary Vaughn, どうもありがとうございました.

To Mississippi Republican Senator Roger Wicker, who serves on the Armed Services Committee.

上院議員, we don’t know a lot of what transpired in that phone call. We do know that Vladimir Putin still has those 100,000-plus Russian troops on that border. Do you think he will hold off?

ITS. ROGER WICKER (R-MS): 上手, I hope he does.

There are two schools of thought on this. One is that it’s a ruse, that he really doesn’t have any intention of going in, instead using it as a bargaining chip. A lot of other people think that an invasion could take place and could take place within weeks.

I will just say this. Vladimir Putin has surprised the West twice, once in 2008 ジョージアで, invading a sovereign nation who was struggling to get out from under the Soviet domination and become a democracy, その後 2014 with Ukraine.

He could very well surprise us again. And I hope, although maybe there was no finger-wagging in the conversation from the president today, I hope there was a show of resolve that we think this would be a game-changer for free Europe. And it’s something that the United States and our allies cannot tolerate.

CAVUTO: 上院議員, some of your Republican colleagues think that we should have troops in the region. They never delineate exactly how many, or that they’d be utilized in an outright confrontation with Russia over the Ukraine, but their mere presence would be effective.

あなたはそれをどう思いますか?

WICKER: 実際, I think there are over 200 我ら. troops in Ukraine right now under the uniforms of the National Guard, perhaps from California, which is their partner National Guard organization, and perhaps also from Florida.

So there are American troops uniformed in Ukraine now.

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CAVUTO: そう, they’re doing very little, in that respect, if you think about it, to hold Putin back.

WICKER: 番号, だが…

CAVUTO: He’s obviously got these troops with them there, 正しい?

WICKER: But they are there.

CAVUTO: OK.

WICKER: そして, また, there’s certainly nothing wrong with us, Neil, getting our troops in place in NATO countries that are treaty allies of ours.

So I would be supportive of that.

And I’ll tell you this, Neil.

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CAVUTO: Finish that.

WICKER: I would not rule outI would not rule out military action.

I think we startwe start making a mistake when we take options off the table. So I would hope the president keeps that option the table. And to the extent that he has agreed to reverse his mistake on Nord Stream 2, if that is, 実際には, what came out of theout of the discussion today, I would applaud that. I hope he does it.

CAVUTO: 大丈夫. What does military action mean, 上院議員?

WICKER: 上手, military action could mean that we stand off with our ships in the Black Sea, and we rain destruction on Russian military capability. It could mean that.

It could mean that we participate. And I would not rule that out. I would not rule out American troops on the ground. 私たちはしません — we don’t rule out first use nuclear action.

CAVUTO: 正しい.

WICKER: We don’t think it’ll happen. But there are certain things in negotiations, if you’re going to be tough, that you don’t take off the table.

And so I think weI think the president should say that everything is on the table. そして, 率直に言って, to the extent that youthat you had Democrats on the show right before me being quoted as saying we need to be tougher, I support that and I appreciate that. I think they represent the fear that we have, the realization that we have in the Congress that losing a free democratic Ukraine to Russian invasion would be a game-changer for a free Europe.

CAVUTO: 大丈夫, Senator Wicker, どうもありがとうございました.

We will watch it very, very closely.

WICKER: ありがとうございました, Neil.

CAVUTO: The defense secretary, 彼の部分のために, did seem to kind of rule out a military-type action. 見てください.

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LLOYD AUSTIN, 我ら. SECRETARY OF DEFENSE: I think there’s alwaysuntil something actually happens, I always believe that there’s a chance to resolve it in ways other than force.

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CAVUTO: 大丈夫, retired Lieutenant Colonel Bob Maginnis with us on all of that.

Colonel, what do you think of that the administration at least seems to be holding off on any commitment of troops for the time being? We really don’t know what’s going on behind the scenes. But what do youwhat do you make of where we go from here?

LT. COL. BOB MAGINNIS (正しい。), 我ら. 軍: はい, 上手, our national interest are questionably at risk here, でも, we don’t like to see a democracy fall.

覚えておいてください, Neil, がある 40 armored battalions lined up against Ukraine. がある 2, 900 infantry fighting vehicles. がある 1, 600 artillery tubes, maybe more than 100,000 軍. Putin is serious this time. This is far more than he had on the ground when he — 2014, when he took Crimea.

And so this is credible. しかしながら, he’s made it very clear in his state of the union address back this April. He said there will be a future Russo- Ukrainian country. He’s not going to surrender to NATO. He’s not going to allow ballistic missiles from NATO to be able to reach Moscow from Ukraine.

And so he has to be assured, which I’m sure he argued with Mr. 今日のバイデン, you give me guarantees, and then maybe we can talk.

CAVUTO: But he’s going to keep the 100,000 troops there, whether they actually go into Ukraine. And it would relieve a lot of people certainly in the West if he were to start drawing down those troops. That doesn’t appear likely.

But I am wondering whether the strategy of imposing more sanctions, Colonel, is the answer. というのは, Russia is among the most sanctioned countries on the planet right now, perhaps saving Iran.

I’m just wondering what another one would do.

MAGINNIS: はい, I don’t think sanctions are going to deter Putin.

And he he’s already probably got a special deal working with President Xi regarding Taiwan. I think they’re collaborating, Neil. I really do. They have had meetings here recently. They have common agendas, and they smell weakness.

And Mr. バイデン, unless he comes through with something that’s far stronger than what we have seen, I think they will take advantage of this. Kind of the tail wags the dog here. If you look behind the armored battalions, the infantry battalions and the 100,000 軍, you see a lot of supplies that are building up.

That communicates to someone like me, who has been during the Cold War facing a lot of Soviet Union forces, they had depth, and this depth is beginning to build behind the Russians today.

CAVUTO: 大丈夫, we will watch it closely.

Colonel, thank you very much for taking the time.

We are waiting to hear from the administration, from the president himself. We do know he’s been conducting these phone calls with foreign leaders of the West. And whether they have his back and whether they will make any response in concert with the president, whatever actions he takes sanctions or otherwise, we will keep you posted on that.

その間, another alert to bring to you before we take a break here, the Dow Jones industrial sprinting ahead close to 500 ポイント, having nothing to do with what’s going on in these talks with Russia and everything to do with what seems to be easing anxieties about the Omicron virus variant.

The fact that it doesn’t look as dangerous, it’s contagious, 大丈夫, but doesn’t appear to be as dangerous, eased a lot of concerns among stock traders. It could prove short-lived, but it did materialize today, 言い換えると, easing worries that maybe this thing will settle itself and the fact that one drug company in particular seems to be working on a vaccine for that specific variant buoying buying interests today.

We will see if it’s justified.

その間, looking at daylight crime that is now a rampage around the country and what’s being done to stop it once and for all.

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CAVUTO: You have probably seen these smash-and-grab burglaries that are all the rage, particularly out West, particularly in California, where even some authorities are saying perhaps we have been too lenient on this and this revolving door of getting people into be seen and then dismissed and never see a day or an hour jail time has actually fed the beast.

Jonathan Hunt in Los Angeles with more on thisJonathan.

JONATHAN HUNT, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: ねえ, Neil.

It’s not an overstatement to say police chiefs in the Los Angeles area are frustrated in the wake of the spate of violent robberies here, high-end stores, malls, 薬局, and cannabis dispensaries all targeted in recent weeks. And law enforcement has responded, including arresting 14 people here in L.A., who were then quickly released under a zero bail policy that was introduced at the beginning of the pandemic as a way to reduce L.A.’s crowded and therefore at-risk prison population.

Police chiefs claimed that policy and other justice reforms are essentially now encouraging crime.

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MARK STAINBROOK, BEVERLY HILLS, カリフォルニア, POLICE CHIEF: We’re catching the criminals. And the problem is, we’re catching them over and over again. And they’re being released very quickly without bail. And they’re not staying in prison.

So we just continue to deal with the samethe same people again and again.

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HUNT: The zero bail policy was introduced before L.A. County district attorney George Gascon took office.

But as the lead prosecutor here, his critics still want to see tougher action from him. And a group of activists is now launching a second recall attempt against the DA, having failed badly in their first effort earlier this year. And other DAs are hitting out at Gascon and other progressive- minded DAs for their reform-minded agendas.

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TODD SPITZER, ORANGE COUNTY, カリフォルニア, DISTRICT ATTORNEY: This is rampant, it’s systemic. And yet George Gascon and Chesa Boudin in San Francisco and all these woke district attorneys across the country, they’re doubling down.

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HUNT: 今, George Gascon’s office here in L.A. refutes that and says of the recent spate of robberies — 見積もり — “We will hold those responsible accountable.

また, Neil, we should point out that robberies and burglaries are mainly down, particularly compared to 2019, でもそれは, もちろん, cold comfort for all the recent victims hereNeil.

CAVUTO: Jonathan Hunt, thank you very much for that.

Get reaction to all this from Karl Rove, FOX News contributor, former White House deputy chief of staff, bestselling author.

カール, again and again, this crime issue has galvanized voters across the country, no matter their party. And I’m wondering if these types of incidents, especially when we see them again and again, have already changed the complexion of even the ’22 race. どう思いますか?

KARL ROVE, FOXニュース寄稿者: 上手, I think that’s right, なぜなら, rightly or fairly or unfairly, a lot of people blame this on Democrats, liberal prosecutors, mayors who want to cut theand city councils who want to defund the police, high-profile figures in the Democratic Party like Representative Tlaib of Michigan, who supports a bill that would empty out federal prisons within a year.

There’s not a lot of data on this, this year regarding the national scene. But there was a very interesting poll on June 30, ABC/Washington Post poll, asking people to rate President Biden on his handling of the issue of crime, approve 38 パーセント, disapprove 48 パーセント.

そう, even then, before we had this spat of high-profile smash-and-grab property crimes they have had particularly on the West Coast, that the leader of the Democratic Party was already upside-down on this issue. I think it’s probably only gotten worse.

CAVUTO: I’m just wondering too, as we progress here, a lot of people in their reluctance to return to in person work and cities and the like, and a good many of them, including where I am right now, ニューヨーク, it’s crime that’s got them concerned, not necessarily COVID.

What do you make of that?

ROVE: I think that’s probably accurate, なぜなら, 見て, we’re all learning to live, whether we like it or not, with COVID.

And I think you see this again reflected, this whole belief that we have got to get on with our lives, and what are the impediments to us getting on with our lives, whether it’s government regulation, whether it is education, virtual education, or whether it’s crime, or whether it’s just a general sense that our society is somehow upside-down.

You see this again in the president’s approval/disapproval. This is the lowest approval rating of any modern elected president at the end of their first year, with the exception of Donald Trump.

And part of it is, look at this, 正しい? People think — のみ 28 percent think the country’s going in the right direction; 62 percent think it’s off on the wrong track. And when that happens, absent sort of like a major economic disaster, we’re in a deep recession or depression, you can look at these cultural issues like, how do you feel about crime? What do you think about the quality of your schools?

Do you think that people are getting ahead? What are you seeing when you go to the grocery store or the gas pump? And I think all these questions, 犯罪, インフレーション, 教育, recovery from the pandemic, all are conspiring to give the president a deep hole in which he finds himself.

CAVUTO: You always remind me, カール, that sometimes you have to be careful of snapshots of how the electorate feels at a given time.

And I have been reminded of that today, an interesting column in The Washington Post talking about what Ronald Reagan was in 1983, where a lot of people were beginning to doubt that he could even be reelected. The recession was still dragging on. Inflation was coming under control, but the benefits would still be off.

He turned that all around, もちろん. And I know there are some great differences here. But do you think Republicans risk getting ahead of themselves on this?

ROVE: 上手, I think you need to go back and take a look at what that history was.

What was the reason we felt badly? What why was the country in a funk? And why was the president seen as failing? And it was the economy. People said, we don’t have enough jobs. There’s not enough prosperity. He took the tough medicine in ’81 and ’82, suffered a big defeat in the 1982 中間.

CAVUTO: 正しい.

ROVE: But the policies were right. And by 1983, it had turned around, そして, 沿って 1984, the economy was roaring, morning in America again.

And I’m not sure it’s analogous here, because it’s not just the economy. It’s inflation, which the administration doesn’t acknowledge as a problem. It’s crime, which it sort of says is not our responsibility. it’s concerns about the border. It’s a sense that our education system is warped by Critical Race Theory and by educators who don’t want to pay attention to families and teacher — すみません — families and students, and who want to put the benefits necessary toand demanded by teachers above the necessity of teaching our kids to read, write and add and subtract.

So I think it’s a more complex picture than we faced in 1981 and ’82.

CAVUTO: 正しい.

ROVE: We also back then did have a sense ofon the international front that America needed a boost of confidence. And we certainly got that from Ronald Reagan.

We’re not getting it from President Biden.

CAVUTO: I thought you would remember differently. I was way too young. So I thought you could offer some insight there.

だが, カール, どうもありがとう, とても. Good seeing you again.

ROVE: ありがとうございました, Neil.

And I will check in with you from the old folkshome later on.

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CAVUTO: ありがとうございました, カール.

大丈夫, as Karl was wrapping up there, just getting confirmation right now that Saule Omarova, the Cornell law professor who critics had claimed was virtually a communist here, has pulled her nomination to be the comptroller of the currency.

And President Biden accepted that with regrets. So they’re back to scratch right now to try to find someone to run that important position as comptroller of the currency.

And in the meantime, some big news in New York. We told you about the crime. だが, たった今, it’s about the COVID mandate instituted by a mayor who’s going to be gone in, 何, three weeks.

Madison Alworth, what’s going on their?

MADISON ALWORTH, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: Neil, there’s so much going on.

Businesses are really confused as to what implementation will even look like, because Mayor Bill de Blasio, he’s not going to be announcing what goes into that for over a week. There’s a lot to unpack here, a lot that businesses and every single person who lives and works in New York City right now is thinking about.

I’m going to bring you all of that coming up.

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CAVUTO: New York mayor’s outgoing parting shot at New Yorkers, even in the private sector, to get vaccinated, every single one of them, in the next three weeks. 何?

After this.

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CAVUTO: He has a little more than three weeks left in office, but New York’s Mayor Bill de Blasio just dropping a bombshell here that he wants everyone vaccinated, even private company individuals, if that private company has two or more workers, and he wants it done as soon as possible.

Let’s go to Madison Alworth on how that is being receivedMadison.

ALWORTH: ねえ, Neil. はい, this was shocking news for really everyone yesterday when it was announced.

This is by far the strictest vaccine mandate that we have seen in the United States. The businesses I have spoken to, they say they were blindsided when this came through, because it is so far-reaching. And there’s still a lot of questions that I have been hearing from these business workers and owners.

それは, when it comes to enforcement and penalties, none of that is yet understood. The mayor is not going to be announcing information around that until December 15. そう, here is what we do know about the mandate as it stands right now.

そう, 効果的に, with these new mandates, anyone from 5 and up that’s unvaccinated will be barred from going to restaurants, gym, and entertainment spaces. And if you work in New York City, you now have to be vaccinated by December 27.

そう, ワクチン接種を受けていない場合, you are barred from working in New York City. The owner of this salon telling us this is just another blow to the recovery. 見る.

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SHANE SORRENTO, オーナー, MERAKI HAIR AND MAKEUP STUDIO: We have to prepare for everything.

We have to prepare for everything. But what we can’t prepare for is something that’s thrown at us last minute. We’re coming off of a very difficult two years to begin with. 我々は持っています — we’re in the midst of the holiday season.

To tell my staff come January 1 they may not have a job is a very difficult thing to do.

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ALWORTH: And this is not just happening, Neil, during the holiday season. There’s some other timelines that are coming into play adding to that uncertainty.

This goes into effect at the end of December. And then just five days later, de Blasio is out and Eric Adams takes office. And he has yet to say, Neil, whether or not he will be enforcing this mandate.

CAVUTO: Incredible.

Madison, どうもありがとう, とても.

To lawyer extraordinaire Mercedes Colwin.

When I don’t understand a legal issue, I call Mercedes up. And this one, わかりません. He’s going to be out of office in three weeks. This takes effect days before he formally leaves. Can he do this?

MERCEDES COLWIN, FOX NEWS LEGAL ANALYST: Always great to be on with you, Neil.

はい, he can. Under the umbrella of public safety and public health, it gives tremendous power to the local government. And that’s what he’s doing here. 率直に言って, the mayor in just these final weeks is putting in an extraordinary mandate in place, which has already been tried not in this expansive scope, but several of the lawsuits seeking similar mandates in New York, they have tried repeatedly.

NYPD tried when there was that the vaccine mandate against the police officers. They failed in state court. Another action was brought into federal court by another group of individuals that felt that these vaccine mandates actually violated their rights, their religious beliefs. That was also defeated by the Second Circuit, which is the court of appeals on the federal side.

そう, はい, he can do so, because it’s got such broad powers.

CAVUTO: But isn’t this different, Mercedes, in that we’re talking about private enterprise, でも? We’re talking private enterprise.

COLWIN: 承知しました.

CAVUTO: Isn’t that a little different here?

COLWIN: 上手, the one in the federal courts was a private group that brought it under theseunder this religious mandate, saying that the fact that some of these vaccine mandates are specifically not giving a carve-out for religious beliefs, that’s problematic.

That was defeated in the court of appeals. そう, はい, there’s no doubt they will be, I’m sure, some mass action, some class action. Something is going to be brought into the court saying that businesses like the business that you profiled duringjust moments ago, where this could be really devastating to the smaller businesses if this the vaccine mandate is required.

And we will have to see what the courts decide. But there’s already showing that courts are agreeing that these mandates are permitted. And they’re permitted to be promulgated and enforced.

CAVUTO: 大丈夫, だが, 時々, they can be justified if the numbers justify the sweeping action.

And in New York, ironically, things have been improving on the whole virus front.

COLWIN: 正しい.

CAVUTO: And the number of vaccinated has hit an all-time high.

I’m just wondering whether that would mitigate that or provide fodder for those challenging it.

COLWIN: そう, あります — there are cases similar to that where there have been arguments exactly like that, that they’re talking about the numbers being so small, the fact that thesethere are precautions beingtaking place in the environment. したがって、, some extreme measures like these vaccine mandates are not required.

And we still see over and over again the judges are saying and courts beyond just the local courts saying that these vaccine mandates under this huge umbrella of public safety during a health crisis is permitted. And that’swe will have to see what ends up happening ultimately, だが, これまでのところ, all of these challenges, not just in this jurisdiction in New York, but jurisdictions around the country, they’re giving into these mandates and saying that it’s permitted because of the health crisis, the overall world health crisis that we’re in under COVID-19.

CAVUTO: はい, why now? That was the only question.

大丈夫, Mercedes, どうもありがとう, とても, Mercedes Colwin following all of that.

その間, back to Omicron, the variant that has everyone worried. What we discovered about it is, it is indeed very contagious. But here’s why stocks were racing today. It’s been deemed not remotely dangerous. Are they right?

After this.

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CAVUTO: Maybe New York’s mayor was looking at Norway here and contemplating this crackdown on demanding vaccines for virtually everybody, private businesses as well, ニューヨークで.

The Norwegian government is introducing some stricter rules to deal with a COVID-19 series of spikes and is limiting the number to 10 individuals at most who can be at a home even through the Christmas holiday. You have more than that, I guess you got the Norwegian police knocking at your door.

Be that as it may, it is also shortly going to be closing restaurants to serving any liquor after midnight, 再び, to deal with this spike in cases that seemed relatively tame, but maybe a sign of things to come with Omicron if it gets out of hand?

これまでのところ, this new variant doesn’t seem to be worldwide the problem some feared it would. It’s certainly very, very contagious. But as for whether it’s dangerous, not so much. 少なくとも, that’s the early read.

To Dr. Kevin Campbell, the K Roc Consulting president and CEO, cardiologist.

医師, 最初に, what do you make of what Norway’s doing right now, not as sweeping as some of the measures, 例えば, countries like Austria are taking, but taking them nevertheless?

DR. KEVIN CAMPBELL, CARDIOLOGIST: I think they’re responding to a spiking cases, which is very different than what you were discussing with regards to New York City just a moment ago.

I think they arethey’re assessing the situation and responding to it. And I think that’s what we have to do on the local level. I think making sweeping mandates all across the board is the wrong way to approach this virus.

CAVUTO: 大丈夫, in the meantime, with Omicron, というのは, that’s the read you get on it, 医師.

今, you’re the medical expert, so I will defer to you, but I’m just going on what the markets we’re doing today, responding to this notion, maybe seizing on what’s happening in Asia and Europe, where their markets went up because they think that, while this is something to watch, it’s not something to watch out for, that it’s not the worry they feared it was.

Are they getting ahead of themselves?

CAMPBELL: そうは思いません.

I think that many of us advised watchful waiting as Omicron emerged. And we talked about the fact that we need a little time to see how very late it is, what this disease severity looks like, and how transmissible. And in the early phases now, we see that it’s very transmissible, but people don’t seem to be getting as sick, with one caveat.

CAVUTO: 正しい.

CAMPBELL: The unvaccinated, they are getting sick, and very sick. Those with vaccines, they seem to be doing pretty well, with very mild symptoms.

CAVUTO: You and I have talked about this before, 医師, about the number of people unvaccinated who are not moved by these latest Omicron developments, instead using it as proof that vaccines don’t work.

This happens in a heavily vaccinated world, and they say, the hell with it. あなたは何を言っていますか?

CAMPBELL: I think it’s really unfortunate, because I think this is actually just the opposite. It proves that vaccines do work.

What we’re seeing is, instead of everyone dying from a new variant every time a new variant happens, we’re seeing that we are having some resistance to it, some immunity to it. Vaccines aren’t there to make sure that no one gets sick at all. Vaccines are there to prevent severe disease, severe illness and debilitation.

So I think they’re doing their job and they’re doing their job quite well.

CAVUTO: 医師, always great catching up with you, 博士. Kevin Campbell, cardiologist, K Roc Consulting president and CEO.

CAMPBELL: ありがとうございました.

CAVUTO: We will keep you abreast if other countries besides Norway take even more aggressive moves. だが, たった今, it does seem to be limited, just a couple of countries doing that sort of thing.

その間, the president’s push to get something under history that he really, really wants, だが, ますます, looks like he’s going to have a really, really tough time getting itafter this.

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CAVUTO: 大丈夫, somewhere between or after settling the debt ceiling thing is the Build Back Better thing, そして, たった今, the Build Back Better thing is looking like a dicey thing.

でもわからない. Chad Pergram does. He’s on Capitol Hill.

Chad, where are we on all of this?

CHAD PERGRAM, FOX NEWS SENIOR CAPITOL HILL PRODUCER: 上手, たった今, there is an agreement between Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer and Minority Leader Mitch McConnell on raising the debt ceiling. Democrats will do the heavy lifting. They will provide the votes on the debt ceiling itself.

But Democrats needed a GOP green-light.

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ITS. チャックシューマー (D-NY), MINORITY LEADER: We want a simple majority, without a convoluted, risky, lengthy process. And it looks like the Republicans will help us facilitate that. It’s not done until it’s done.

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PERGRAM: GOP members won’t actually vote to lift the debt limit, but they will assist on procedure that helps the Senate reach the actual debt limit vote.

Twice before, Mitch McConnell said the GOP would not assist. But here they are.

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PERGRAM: What do you say when you drew those two red lines, and now saying, ああ, we’re going to help indirectly raise the debt ceiling?

ITS. ミッチ・マコーネル (R-KY): 上手, the red line is intact.

The red line is that you have a simple majority party-line vote on the debt ceiling.

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PERGRAM: We don’t expect actual votes on the debt ceiling until next week. The deadline is December 15.

Democrats are also crashing to complete their social spending bill. There’s concern about inflation.

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ITS. ジョー・マンチン (D-WV): I’m just basically a realist. There’s an awful lot there and a lot of changes to be done. And you’re throwing it at a time when it’s very vulnerable in our economy, and basically where we are, and American public, as far as the strategy that they have, trying to make it through some challenging times.

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PERGRAM: Democrats hope to finish the bill by Christmas, but that will be toughNeil.

CAVUTO: Chad Pergram, ありがとうございました.

To Republican Senator Roy Blunt, what he thinks happens now in the next few weeks.

どう思いますか, 上院議員?

ITS. ROY BLUNT (R-MO): 上手, I think it’s impossible for them to get to this big spending package by the end of the year.

そして, 率直に言って, the longer it’s out there, the more time people have to think about it and look at it, and wonder how all the things that Democrats are saying could be true. They say they’re going to totally remake the economy and they’re going to transform American society, and it’s not going to cost anything.

So nobody believes that. And I think people are going to begin to look at this more closely. 率直に言って, I think time is on the side of the people who would prefer that this not pass, that we try to stay with the tax policies and the regulatory policies that we have had for the past four years that were producing really good results right before COVID hit.

And we clearly see the economy already heating up and on the way back, maybe heating up too quickly.

CAVUTO: そう, if this were to get pushed back into the new year, it just seems very unlikely it happens at all at that time.

BLUNT: 上手, I think very unlikely, I’m not sure I’d say that, but I would say it’s certainly less likely that it happens.

And let’s say you get to theinto February or March. If you get toNeil, if you get to January, it’s pretty hard to imagine, if you come back and start again in January, that you would get done before February or so.

And I think you’reI think you’re exactly right. I think it makes it much harder for them to get this done than it would have been six months ago. And everyevery day people have a chance to look at this and try to add up the things that just don’t add up, I think there’s going to be less public support.

そして, 毎日, Democrats get closer to the next election, some of them are going to have to decide, do I want to stay in the Congress, or do I want to vote on this purely partisan bill that no Republicans, House or Senate, will be voting for?

CAVUTO: So that’s still the way it stands, 正しい, 上院議員? No Republican votes are likely?

そう, these reports that some Democrats are trying to arm-twist some members in your party, it’s not going anywhere, 正しい?

BLUNT: I don’t think that’s going anywhere. そして, 率直に言って, I think the arm- twisting is going to be them and having to twist arms on their own side.

そして, 再び, インクルード — we get into some of the earliest primaries by March. People began to think more about the election. They look at the president’s numbers. They look at the inflation numbers, and just wonder if they can add one more thing to that they can explain and have a chance to come back.

It’s certainly likely that we have a Republican House and probably a Republican Senate anyway. But the size of that margin could be affected by how Democrats who are currently here decide they’re going to vote on this package after the 1st of the year.

CAVUTO: どう思いますか, 上院議員, while I have you, your former colleague Senator Perdue taking on in a primary Governor Kemp in Georgia, apparently at the behest of President Trump?

Do you think this is a seat that was a gimme for Republicans that might not be now?

BLUNT: 上手, I don’t know how that’s going to work out in Georgia.

I can barely handle Missouri politics and figuring them out, and particularly primary election politics.

CAVUTO: はい.

BLUNT: 再び, a lot will happen between now and what’s a fairly late primary in Georgia. And we will just have to see.

もちろん, we thought Senator Perdue did a good job of while he was here. And I guess we will have to see what Georgia Republicans think about that.

CAVUTO: はい, it was a very close race, あなたのポイントに.

Senator Roy Blunt, ありがとうございました. Very good seeing you again.

BLUNT: あなたと一緒にいるのは素晴らしい.

CAVUTO: 大丈夫, Roy Blunt on all of that.

You remember JetBlue founder Dave Neeleman? He’s at it again. He’s had a number of successful airlines, but this one, his Breeze Airways, is getting a lot of attention, もし, for nothing else, than some fares that start as low as 39 bucks.

The JetBlue founder is here next.

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CAVUTO: 大丈夫, get ready for some more packed flights this holiday season, if Thanksgiving was any example, and especially if my next guest has anything to say about it, because JetBlue founder David Neeleman’s new airline, Breeze Airways, is out expanding rapidly across the country, with some fares starting as low as $ 39.

David Neeleman, the JetBlue founder, with us right now.

Dave, very good to see you.

DAVID NEELEMAN, FOUNDER AND CEO, BREEZE AIRWAYS: ありがとうございました, Neil. Thanks for having me on.

CAVUTO: I have learned over the years covering you, Dave, that never to doubt what you’re doing. It’s a crowded marketplace. そして, 明らかに, it can be a frustrating one for many travelers, who equate air travel these days with like going to the dentist.

So what do you offer them? What do you tell them?

NEELEMAN: 上手, we serve convenient airports, and we serve it close to where people want to go.

And all of our flights are nonstop. You don’t have to make a connection through a hub. We started out with this idea and said, let’s get people there for half the price twice as fast. And it’s really resonating with our customers. We have only been flying for like five months, そして 30 percent of our customers are repeat customers. So they love flying on Breeze, and we’re getting great survey NPS scores.

CAVUTO: 大丈夫, so New York, ウェストパームビーチ, 等々.

What are some of the markets you’re focusing on?

NEELEMAN: 上手, out of Islip, we just announced yesterday service just to Norfolk and to Charleston.

And New Yorkers, if you go to Charlestonand I have been there. It’s a great city.

CAVUTO: それは.

NEELEMAN: It seems like everyone’s a New Yorker down there.

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NEELEMAN: そう — and Norfolk is great, Virginia Beach, and Williamsburg.

And so if you’re onyou’re out on Long Island and, ねえ, let’s go somewhere this weekend, fare is $ 39, または $ 49, または $ 59, なんでもいい. You can hop out on a Thursday or a Friday and come back on a Sunday or Monday. And it’s great change of scenery. You can eat new food, live music, all the things that we want to do to get back to normal life after we have been through this kind of miserable time the last year-and-a-half.

CAVUTO: 今, mask requirements are, 私は推測する, going to stay in effect through March, next March.

Do your customers not like that and thisall the hassle of flying in general? I’m sure a very different experience for your airline, but you have heard the legendary stories of fights on planes and the rest, that people are frazzled.

NEELEMAN: 上手, はい, we started this airline the notion ofthat we’re seriously nice.

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NEELEMAN: And we really wanted to be the nicest airline, because it’s something we could deliver on.

So I thinkI have tried to convince our peopleand it’s workingthat if you come to work nice, and you treat people nice, then they’re nice to you, and you like your job better.

そう, というのは, what I was happy about the mandate, they didn’t extend it for six months. It was just extended from kind of the middle of January to the middle of March. そして, うまくいけば, we will get to the point where those that are concerned and worried, they can wear an N95 mask, an actual medical- grade mask, and everyone can just kind of go about their normal life.

I’d like to see that with vaccines out there

CAVUTO: はい.

NEELEMAN: … そして, うまくいけば, that we’re getting some good news on the Omicron virus.

そう, うまくいけば, maybe it’s the natural vaccine we have been looking for, for a milder version. We will see how that plays out.

CAVUTO: はい, that could play out as well.

You know that foreign travel maybe might be crimped a little bit. I think of your former carrier with trips to Brazil back and forth. Do you worry that it does hurt the industry, but maybe, for what you’re doing now with Breeze Airways, would feed into the demand for safer domestic travel?

NEELEMAN: It does.

More so, でも, there’s been a pullback from a lot of flights to smaller cities. So that’s what we do. We fill in the gaps. 我々は持っています 40 routes, and every single one of them, save maybe one or two, have no nonstop competition.

CAVUTO: 大丈夫.

NEELEMAN: So we’re just filling in the gaps where the big guysif you live in cities like Charleston and Norfolk, you usually have toyou have to make a connection beforeto go anywhere.

And so we have just said, don’t have to make a connection. It’s greener to go nonstop. And you can get there quicker. And you canit cost us less money, so we pass that savings along.

CAVUTO: Got it.

NEELEMAN: そう, that’s — ええと, we’reit’s a win-win for everybody.

CAVUTO: 大丈夫, let’s hope so.

Everyone, stay calm. Stay calm, 正しい, Dave?

Dave Neeleman.

NEELEMAN: Stay calm.

CAVUTO: Breeze Airways is the airline.

Finally on this day, remembering something special. There’s been a lot of remembrances of that day the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor.

If I can just relay a story from my dad on that day, watching that day as a young kid, the very next day signing up to join the service.

I can remember, as a stupid teenager, having the nerve to ask him: “パパ, did you ever think of going to Canada?” もちろん, that was at the time of the Vietnam War and everything else.

今, after launching me into orbit, he left it at that: “You did what you had to do. I had to do it.

And he did. And so the did generation known as the greatest ever do just that. Remembering them on this special day.

おやすみなさい.

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